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No they didn’t.
9/10 predicted she would win the popular vote.
and she did.
You see, the US works under a system called the “electoral college”, where individual allot a given number of electors in a winner takes all state wide election.
as a result; of can lose the popular vote, but win the election.
The National polls aren’t directly predicting who would win, despite your asinine claims to the contrary because they aren’t attempting to poll how individual states will vote. They are directly predicting how the country as a whole would vote; and they did so pretty accurately.
The RCP national average predicted the popular vote to within 1pt, or an effective +/- of 0.5%.
that means if those pollsters conducted other national polls; for example opinion polls, one may expect them to be a broadly accurate gauge of the national mood as they were with the popular vote.
But hey, that’s reality! Reality has a well known liberal bias.
We’re stupid liberals and our thinking that a poll predicting the exact national results of an election to within 2 PT’s is “accurate”!
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is.
a.
lie.
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Wow.
You’re now confusing what the pundits said with what the polls said: you can’t even keep your argument straight.
I get it; you keep saying the polls were wrong, over and over again.
They weren’t: you just don’t understand what the polls means.
when a national poll shows Hillary would get 48%, and trump gets 46% it is predicting that Hillary will get 48% of the vote, and trump will get 46%. The win or loss is not predicted by the national polls. So saying they predicted a win, and she lost is comparing apples and oranges; and given the extent that you have botched every argument thus far, it seems that you don’t seem to be able to understand the things you are talking about.
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are.
on.
drugs.
9 out of 10 polls gave the election to Hillary, and she lost. The polls were obviously and inarguably wrong.
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You'll notice it doesn't say "who is more popular".
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There were way more than 45 elections. Factor in two terms and all.
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You're right, there were 56 elections. That still works out to 9% of all elections.
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You’re not talking about those 9 polls any more; you’re talking about Nate Silvers prediction of the Election.
This is getting idiotic now.
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“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
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“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
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Let’s break it down to even a level you can understand.
if a poll says Hillary will get 48% of the vote, +\- 3%, and trump will get 45% of the vote +\- 3%, If Hillary won 48% of the vote, and trump wins
46% of the vote. That poll is within its margin of error and therefore correct; no matter how much you want to yell otherwise.
you don’t seem to understand that a national poll that says says clinton 48, trump 46 isn’t predicting clinton will win the election, it’s predicting she would win 48% of the vote: which she did.
this is such basic logic, that your constant failure to understand even the basic principles here is pretty daming.
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“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin So flat Earthers, man-made climate change deniers, and just science deniers.
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What's worth more, a poll that is right, or a poll that is arguably to the actual issue but is wrong?
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A national presidential poll asks people, generally, “if the election were held today, who would you vote for?”. They then appropriately adjust, weight and tabulate the results to adjust for sampling, (too many women, men, etc) and generate a number indicating what percentage of voters would vote for Hillary, and what percentage of voters would vote for trump.
To say a national presidential poll means something other than that, is a lie.
To say a national presidential poll is a direct prediction of who will win, is also a lie: it can only be used indirectly.
To say a presidential poll like this that shows Hilary getting a higher percentage than trump indicates Hillary would win the election, is also a lie: that’s not what the number means.
to say any of those 10 polls were highly inaccurate, is a lie. All but 3 were within the margin of error, and none were extremely off.
to say any of those 10 polls were far outside their margin of error, is also a lie.
To claim that Nate silvers “75% chance of victory” is the same thing as these polls, is also a lie.
So please, get a grip, and start trying to learn what it is your talking about before spewing and unending tirade of false claims, and incorrect assertions.
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if at any point you want to answer my posts; which explains in detail why you’re wrong, please do so.
The presidential polls were broadly correct, and I’ve explained why. All you’ve done is pretend they didn’t mean what they did, deliberately misunderstand what they mean, then stick your finger in your ears.
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Well folks we all saw how that turned out. CNN is an embarrassment to the News media and these days they're more useful for entertainment than the news. If an immigrant crossed the border tomorrow and asked me what news channel he should watch for accurate information about current affairs in the U.S., I'd tell him to watch The Colbert Report before I'd recommend CNN.
"There's going to be a special place in Hell for people who spread lies through the veil of logical fallacies disguised as rational argument".
"Oh, you don't like my sarcasm? Well I don't much appreciate your stupid".
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